Sunday, September 02, 2007

Alarmist, maybe, but be aware

Alarmist, maybe, but worth reading anyway. A man whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War Two owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

"Very few people were true Nazis "he said," but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories."

We are told again and again by "experts" and "talking heads" that Islam is the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace.

Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam. The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history.

It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. The hard quantifiable fact is that the "peaceful majority" the "silent majority" is cowed and extraneous.

Communist Russia comprised Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. China's huge population, it was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual prior to World War 2 was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel and bayonet.

And, who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were "peace loving"?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.

Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awake one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.

As for us who watch it all unfold; we must pay attention to the only group that counts; the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Lastly, at the risk of offending, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious you are contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand.

So, extend yourself a bit and let us hope that thousands, world wide, read this and think about it.



After Posting This, I slowly re-read each paragraph...

Some will read it, and move on to
their own complexities. I was like that after we lost our Embassy in
Tehran on Nov 4, 1979; that was twenty-eight years ago! A number of atrocities were to follow the Grand Ayatollah Khomeini incident.
Many are still unaware.

When the nation witnessed on Tv the
NYC Twin Towers fall on 9/11 a whole new perspective finally dawned on this old man. Here we go, Again.
Sound the Firebell, fellow!

That's why I blog. reb

Mohamed said...

Do you have the enough bravery to read my response?!! Are you brave enough to answer my question?!!

I doubt that you have that kind of bravery!!

But I'm sure of one thing; you are only brave to still reviling and reviling without giving yourself the opportunity to understand.

You asked me to answer your questions, and what I did?!!
I answered all your questions. And what you did?!!
You reviled me. How silly!!
How miserable to found a person who claim to believe in freedom of speech, and he still reviling and don't give himself a second to try to understand the other side.
Shame liar claimers!!



Thank you for finally returning to
this American Site where our viewers can judge whether your views have any validity.
Go Now To History Post, July 4, 2006. Let us begin there!

Check carefully every word as we proceed. Check world history books. Check WWII Films. This can be a learning experience for an open mind! If you are sincere, this is a Premier Opportunity for you to gain some knowledge before speaking harshly.
Do you have an Open Mind For World History, Mohamed?

Please Bring A History Scholar from Cairo University to help you with dates. You really need some fundamental information.
mohamed claim: Hiroshima/Nagasaki (1945) was a crime against humanity, yet you deny it was a reaction to Pearl Harbor (1941),
where we lost one-half of our Naval Fleet at anchor on a Sunday morning sneak attack, in two hours!

You deny that the Two Horror Bombs on August 6, 1945 saved millions of lives on both sides, mostly civilian, plus the military lives scattered on dozens of Islands in the Vast South Pacific Ocean?
Does Mohamed know nothing of this?
Can you deny this? Imperial Japan in 1928, attacked a then defenseless
rural China with All-powerful Army
and Naval Forces for a dozen years. It systematically murdered millions, then enslaved peasant workers to feed their vastly expanding military operations.

Japan needed Land-Mass & Minerals to fulfill their expanding dream of World Domination! The sleepy "Peace-Loving" USA did not wish to become 'Involved' in a foreign war in the Pacific, or in
Europe! You Must Read About It!
The USA had a small Standing Army & Air Force in 1940, Read It!
If Mohamed has an Honest Thirst for
historical truth, perhaps Allah has guided him here to my humble blog...who can truly say? I cannot.
(To be continued on my History Post, see July 4, 2006) reb

The Loop Garoo Kid said...


Have you ever heard of the Rape of Nanjing (November 1937-January 1938)? Have you ever vivited the museum in Nanjing? It is very educational. You should go.




Please Allow Our Friend Mohamed to respond...NOT HERE...but on my History Post, July 4th, 2006.

That's Where Other Students may
find useful information about WWII.

Mohamed Is Not Alone in his lack of
World History. American Students are also in desperate need of the Basics!
It's so sad.

Please give Mohamed a few days to Research, then another day or two
to respond. I think he is sincere; Be patient. Thank you. reb
Fair Warning! Any More Comments, On This Subject, On This Post By Anyone, are in jeopardy of being Deleted! reb


Alarmist Comments, Continue!

Anonymous said...

Alarmist Post should wake up the
whole country. Was that a Jewish man that
owned the German Factory? How come
the Germans, or the Nazi SS didn't kill him? Much to think about.

P.S. If that Mohamed guy gives you any
more lip, he's no student. I think
he is a simple-minded terrorist. Why do you waste time on him?

I just read your history post! Great stuff that I didn't know. I just found out about it. Good!!!
I'll pass it on.

James, Fort Lewis, Wash.


British pull out of Southern Iraq;
now we shall see if Muktadah al Sadr moves South. reb

Rob Scot said...

Powerful insights. You strike home to the heart of the issue when you assert that the peacefulness of most Muslims is irrelevent in light of the fact that the fanatics are gaining ground everywhere. Your comment about the expansion of (and brutality required to maintain) Islam is Africa is particularly well placed. We can learn so much about the threat of Islam by looking at the lives of non-muslim individuals living in Islamic states.
"All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." (Edmund Burke)


Yes indeed, Rob

If only the brief history of our first five presidents were mandatory study for high-school graduates, and a copy of the 1st Amendment were attached to every diploma, we might have a much broader positivity and awareness, ready to meet the grim challenges of the 21st century.

Lacking those basics, our two-page summary of the past eighty years by
Raymond Kraft, attempts to fill the tragic void between the ears of
many baby-boomers, and their kids! reb

See 'History" Post, July 4, 2006

Anonymous said...

Surely your insights are spot on. Without the passive nature of the global industrialized community, many of these attrocities would never have happened. Without the politically correct mafia waging a war of words on every "police action" and "peacekeeping mission" it's easy to believe the terrorists would still be holed up in the middle of the nothing that is the caves of Afghanistan.

But, that's not the case.

Instead, we're "peacekeeping" and "policing" an area the terrorists fled months, if not years ago (read: Iraq, Afghanistan) while those of us at home sit and bitch about wasted funds and and criticize an already depleted administration.

It's time for all of us, the global "us", if you will, to pay attention. It's time to target the problem directly and not pussy-foot around the situation.

How the hell does a 6 foot 10 inch arab dragging around 10,000 pounds of kidney dialysis machines escape the greatest army in the world, anyways?


Osama bin Laden probably has his personal physician with him at any
critical time of medical emergency,
Dr. Ayman al Zawahiri.

He probably has well-stocked "Safe"
Housing in Wasiristan (?) and several other locations on both sides of a long, mountainous border; he can command any number of donkeys to transport equipment,
armament, virgins, strategists, financiers, etc whatever he needs.

Any suspected unfriendly native is
immediately dispatched, and never heard from again. Loyalty is total. Beside all this, he's probably irrelevant by now. He and
Zawahiri have become mere Symbols of The Insanity. The cancer grows more deadly. reb





BUT NOT HERE!!! ASK ANY QUESTIONS a), b), c), d), e), f), .....

I'll try to answer! Go there now.


Snake Hunters Readers:


If you are interested in a young Islamic Law Student's views, (in blue ink, tap 'mohamed')

Zip, You're In Cairo, Egypt!

Then, come back! reb

mud_rake said...

we must pay attention to the only group that counts; the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Absolutely, but before we shove off from our shores to look for 'those' fanatics, we ought to shine the light on our own fanatics.

I do that day after day.

Good luck on your mission.


Yes sir,

Apathy Rules, where angels fear to
tread. We are adrift in stormy seas, and those of us that choose to sound the firebell are subject to ridicule.

Muck Rake's analogy of a Pitch-man
Selling Snake Oil is valid. Politics! The vain & gullible may reflect later, that they were very foolish not to listen to the Enemy Voice.

We have had a fanatical enemy, armed with an ancient Kill-culture that assaults us, and our 1st Amendment for 28 years, and many ignore it. They prefer Political Games! One-half of this nation enjoy other pastimes, unaware.

How many will read our short History Post, July 4th, 2006? This explains the obvious complexity of our peril? Many of us need a fresh perspective! So little time left, so many of us still asleep.

Remember Pearl Harbor. reb


The comment here is a duplication of my response to a "Loop Garoo" Personal attack on George W. Bush.

See: "When Evil Prospers"/Washburn
Loop Garoo, Sir:

Attack Administration Policy All You Like, it's an American Fundamental Principle.

But when you make foolish, systematic & repetitive Personal Attacks on the fellow that took the
Solemn Oath of Office, shoulders the responsibility for our National Survival, one that the American voter selected twice, in a Time of War, I must respond.
Check Sept 10th, New York Times...

For Another Personal Attack, on our Iraq Field General, David Petraeus,
A West Pointer, that also took an Oath, to Protect and to Serve.

The Full-Page Bold Print Ad Reads:


George Soros "MoveOnDotOrg" paid for this scurrilous piece of trash;

It is reported that this Billionaire Crackpot now "owns" a
major portion of my former Party, and also owns the Un-American Sentiment, Paid For In Cold Cash, to establish mindless hatred in a goodly share of the U.S. Electorate, via Four Years of Hate/Smear Propaganda. I believe he's a foreign criminal menace. I think smart fellows like you have been deceived, duped, "conditioned".

Under 1st Amendment Privilege, I assert my right to think it, say it, and print it.

I feel a moral obligation to respond to your Personal Attacks on George W. Bush!

Regards, reb (Print)


For Instant Enlightenment...

forget the babbling Mantra that many learned from the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in the 1960's.

Forget "Oh-Waaah, Ta-Gooo, Siam!"

Go now, to second comment on this post...Click Sept 11th Article of


he's at his best yet.

Then check the Comments!!! Wowee!


The Loop Garoo Kid said...

Well, reb, let us make one thing perfectly clear which is the following comments apply only to the president and not General Petraeus. You may recall that I support the surge in consideration of the other two options that were available at the time the surge began: the abject failure of the policy of "staying the course" or the impossibility and/or disasterous consequewnces of withdrawal.

That said, George W. Bush did indeed take a solemn oath of office to protect and preserve our republic. It seems to me that throughout the duration of our correspondence, you have been willing to give him a hall pass merely b/c he took the oath and is the president.

We disagree regarding the wisdom of invading Iraq. Somehow, you believe that as an exercise in foreign policy, it best servesd the interests of our country by making us more secure. I challenge you to defend that particular proposition.

Certainly we agree that Iran poses the major threat to our security and regional security. The removal of Saddam Hussein has strengthened and emboldened Iran. In the meanwhile, the invasion of Iraq continues to be a suck hole for our national resources, our military first and foremost.

One need only recite the changing litany of justifications and goals of the invasion to reinforce the contention that it was a foreign policy disaster.

For me, it is easy to see how the president made the mistakes he has. If those are personal attacks they are none the less accurate.




You see, what you choose to see

You see, what yo

Very Accurate, If >>> You Buy Into
George Soros Hate Propagands.

"Bush Lied, People Died" (Repeat)

"Bush, Cheney, Halliburton!" Repeat

"Bush Lied, People Died" etc

"GEN DAVID BETRAY US? blah, blah,
'cookin da books 4 da white house'

"GEN DAVID BETRAYUS!, blah, blab,
blah, blah, blah, blah, ugh...


"Bush, Cheney, Halliburton!" etc
"Bush, Cheney, Halliburton!" **

**Two Months Ago, Soros Bought Blocks of Shares In...

HALLIBURTON! First he buys my old
Political Party, then he buys...

Suckers!"What Fools We Mortals Be!
First Pelosi~Now Kucinich to Syria!
(*singing, I surrender, dear)
Pavlov wuz a fag, Pavlov wuz a fa
Say Your Prayers, dear, Hate Bush!
We Are 28Years Into A 100 Year War!

The Loop Garoo Kid said...


As I mentioned over in WEP, I knew Iraq was totally unworkable when Halliburton announced it was pulling out. If Halliburton believed the risks of staying outweighed the benefits, it was a very good indication that the country had descended too far into the abyss. The situation is dire when Halliburton either can't or doesn't want to make money.

I am not interested in the latest ad which I have already denounced.

We have been in Iraq for years now. It will probably be decades b/f we leave entirely, if ever we do. I am thinking it will be like South Korea.

I am dioscouraged when I look at the reasons why we committed so many of our resources into that suck hole. (This is a rafting term describing a condition in rapids in which a raft is lierally sucked beneath the surface.)

This administration made every effort to link Iraq w/ al Qaeda and 9/11 when link there was none.

We were told, as the United Nations by Colin Powell, that Saddam Hussein had WMDs. WMDs were there none.

Therefore we invaded a country from which we are unable to extricate ourselves based on faulty intelligence. It's either that, or the WMDs were like the Iraq-al Qaeda link--non existent--and the admininistration knew that.

Quite frankly, I'm not sure which one of those alternatives I dislike more.

3,700 + irreplacable American lives (never mind how many Iraqis)and what will untimately prove to be a cost in excess of a trillion dollars later, are we any safer?

Is Iran more of a threat now or less?

Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney do get hall passes for this. Whoever follows them in the years to come must learn from what is either their gross negligence or their deliberate malfeasance.

I find it ironic that, in consideration of my personal opinion regarding him, that George W. Bush could have been considered one of our country's better presidents. Six years ago he siezed the megaphone at ground zero. He then told the Taliban how the cow ate the cabbage and when the Taliban refused to close the training camps, he led our country to war and threw the rascals out.

Had he not led us into Iraq, Osama bin Laden's head would be on a pike and who know what else he might have accomplished?

As it is, history will remember him w/ one 4 letter word: I-r-a-q.


Ignoring MoveOn's Vile Ad indicates
your own approval of this vicious and scurrilous advertisement that
slanders a fine General Officer.

The Discount "kick-back" of $120,000 verifies the New York Times duplicity and complicity in Extreme
anti-Administration, anti-Military,
and anti-American bias. To repeat the Left-Wing "talking points" at
every single opportunity exposes your own inability to face the unfolding realities. Slowly, the Left will self-destruct under their
own weight of IGNOR-ANCE.

Together, we shall watch the Polls
Reverse, and G.W. Bush Resolve will stand tall, in long-awaited justification.

The face of ugly, shameful, and unwarranted, blistering ridicile from the N.Y. Times, and its George Soros Hate Group Partner, along with other publications, will fade into the stormy sunset of ignominious defeat. How sweet it is! That's a Snake Hunters Prediction. Stay tuned. reb

The Loop Garoo Kid said...


You have never seemed to be a card carrying resident of Fantasy Land except in two regards, which are interelated. The first is your steadfast unwillingness to accept and admit the fallibility of George W. Bush. The second is your unwillingness to accept the simple fact that at the time of the invasion, not only wasn't Iraq the forefront in the war on terrorism, it was at best, a minor beachhead.

Like many supporters of the invasion of Iraq and your assessment of ongoing operations is an exercise in wishful thinking.
Last night, the president gave his vision of an open ended American presence in Iraq.

The success or failure of the invasion of Iraq is dependent on political reconciliation and the success of democracy in Iraq.

Whereas you have, since out first acquaintance, been quick to recognize and decry what you describe as a 1,400 year old "kill culture" yet you are willing to believe that this same culture will forge a successful representative government w/ absolutely no history or tradition of such government. In fact, there is a history of religious schism dating back over 1,300 years which was exacerbated by decades of suppression by one sect under the rule of a brutal dictator.

I for one do not measure the success of a president by his resolve. I measure the success of a president by his ability to implement policies that preserve our republic and allow it to thrive. The invasion of Iraq was clearly not such a policy. If you disagree, I challenge you to defend the invasion of Iraq and explain how, at the time of its inception, it furthered the interests of this country or pour allies to such a degree that the cost of that war in lives, mobey, and prestige has been justified.

Two more items b/f I leave you. Again, I repeat my challenge to any and all supporters of George W. Bush. You write the two paragraphs about him that will appear in U.S. History books a few decades from now and I will do the same. Then let an unbised or even biased audience determine which is more likely to be published.

Secondly, you have seized on a report of being given a substantial discount for the ad. As yet, I am uncertain of the facts as the "discount" was reported by the NY Post, which cites an unnamed spokesperson for, and the story was later picked up by Fox News.

The discount has been denied by the NYT. If true, it raises serious questions about the publication policy of the paper.

If it is untrue, then I expect you to print a retraction.

Your position is: "How can you trust the NYT if they give discounts for ads to organizations like which printed a disparaging ad."

If, however, the no discount was given, then why should anyone give credence to what you publish if you are willing to print news which is unsupported by the evidence.



S/H readers will notice the panic
in the above comment by Loop Garoo.

He likes to double-check items, a valid trait that I admire. I wonder if he'd like to buy a Sept 14th New York Times, laminate the Rudy Giuliani Response for his Office Wall, then give us his long-winded, sage critique on that? reb


An eMail Note To Jerry:
Jerry, Your reaction to MoveOn Hate Ad is typical. Most thinking citizens deplore this vicious slander of a decent man. Finally, the billionaire George Soros went too far, and now in the coming weeks we shall see the American reaction to his vile campaign. MoveOn has two million registered Hate members, and even some of them, probably ex-military, have already quit in disgust.

Check today's N.Y. Times, page 9-A, for Rudy G. Full Page Answer.

Later today, I shall Post "Battle Of The Full-Page Ads" on Snake Hunters Weblog. Never in my adult lifetime have I witnessed this degree of hatred for a President & his Field General. This story has Running Legs; today's Minority Party is just beginning to Fight This Scurrilous Hate Campaign. Rudy Giuliani Forced The New York Times to give a Republican Nominee The Equal MoveOn Discount! Get a Sept 14th Ad, (It's a collector's dream. An eBay potential!)

No Democratic Nominee Dare to
"MoveAgainst" the billionaire, albeit
One Huge 'MoveOn' Blunder ~ Watch the Polls begin to Reverse. reb

Anonymous said...

Not a single Demo nominee has shown the intestinal fortitude to
rap They fear this
guy. That is my opinion! SammiFromMiami

Anonymous said...

The person unable to think for himself will never die alone!